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Task #2121

documentation.libreoffice.org

Added by Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn about 1 year ago. Updated 8 months ago.

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Normal
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Team - Pool
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Description

There is a new website documentation.libreoffice.org and a new link in 5.3.0 to the website. We should coordinate it with design-, infra- and l10n-team .

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#1 Updated by Sophie Gautier about 1 year ago

  • Assignee set to Sophie Gautier

Assigning it to me as I intended to do it anyway :) Sophie

#2 Updated by Sophie Gautier about 1 year ago

  • Assignee changed from Sophie Gautier to Olivier Hallot

Reassigning to Olivier, I'll take only the l10n coordination part :) Olivier, let me know when you want me to begin.

#3 Updated by Olivier Hallot about 1 year ago

Thanks Sophie

Basically the site is organized into locales, and redirection can merge 2 or more locales into 1 (e.g. [fr-CA, fr-BE, fr-FR] -> [fr]. Or, the NL teams may prefer to have their differences, it is up to them.

I have built en, pt-BR.

Daniel Rodriguez is on es/

K-J did his de/ part, redirecting to the main site, perfectly valid, BTW.

Th remaining NL teams are to be reached.

The message for NLs is +/- :

"The documentation and NL teams have inserted a new entry in the Help menu to make easy for user to reach LibreOffice User Guides. The landing page of this Help entry is based on the locale of the user interface in use.

The documentation website is a place to store the published user guides. It was not designed to be a place to collaborative work on documents and chapters, which is much better handled by our wiki or the ODF Author websites. Once the work on a Guide is ready, it can be uploaded to the documentation site for ease of reach by end-users.

NL team managers are invited to shape their NL pages in documentation web site. They may upload the files in the website, reshape navigation or even redirect to a prefered webpage out of the documentation website."

#4 Updated by Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn about 1 year ago

We need some links in the main menu (Cloph?):
- To LibO website
- to TDF-Wiki
- maybe to TDF

#5 Updated by Sophie Gautier about 1 year ago

Olivier Hallot wrote:

Thanks Sophie

Basically the site is organized into locales, and redirection can merge 2 or more locales into 1 (e.g. [fr-CA, fr-BE, fr-FR] -> [fr]. Or, the NL teams may prefer to have their differences, it is up to them.

I have built en, pt-BR.

Daniel Rodriguez is on es/

K-J did his de/ part, redirecting to the main site, perfectly valid, BTW.

Th remaining NL teams are to be reached.

The message for NLs is +/- :

"The documentation and NL teams have inserted a new entry in the Help menu to make easy for user to reach LibreOffice User Guides. The landing page of this Help entry is based on the locale of the user interface in use.

The documentation website is a place to store the published user guides. It was not designed to be a place to collaborative work on documents and chapters, which is much better handled by our wiki or the ODF Author websites. Once the work on a Guide is ready, it can be uploaded to the documentation site for ease of reach by end-users.

NL team managers are invited to shape their NL pages in documentation web site. They may upload the files in the website, reshape navigation or even redirect to a prefered webpage out of the documentation website."

When you say NL teams have inserted a new entry in the Help menu, which NL teams are you speaking about? you mean L10n? Is it possible to point only to the wiki if the NLP has no book? and could you give the exact process, for example
- you need to request edit rights
- create a category for your language
- etc.
Last question, when is the deadline for them, when will it be announced to the rest of the world?
Thanks :)

#6 Updated by Olivier Hallot about 1 year ago

Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn wrote:

We need some links in the main menu (Cloph?):
- To LibO website
- to TDF-Wiki
- maybe to TDF

The existing entries are a partial solution of https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96015

any change in the UI must be submitted to the UX team as in the bug

Feel free to join the discussion and add your suggestions there.

#7 Updated by Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn about 1 year ago

Olivier Hallot wrote:

any change in the UI must be submitted to the UX team as in the bug

Sorry for missleading description: I mean the menu in website documentation.libreoffice.org not the main menu in LibO.
Let me say: A user is coming from LibO menu help to documentation.website, but there is no way to LibO website.

#8 Updated by Olivier Hallot about 1 year ago

Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn wrote:

Olivier Hallot wrote:

any change in the UI must be submitted to the UX team as in the bug

Sorry for missleading description: I mean the menu in website documentation.libreoffice.org not the main menu in LibO.
Let me say: A user is coming from LibO menu help to documentation.website, but there is no way to LibO website.

Ah OK... if it is only with the website, then it is our issue.

#9 Updated by Olivier Hallot about 1 year ago

Sophie Gautier wrote:

Olivier Hallot wrote:

Thanks Sophie

Basically the site is organized into locales, and redirection can merge 2 or more locales into 1 (e.g. [fr-CA, fr-BE, fr-FR] -> [fr]. Or, the NL teams may prefer to have their differences, it is up to them.

I have built en, pt-BR.

Daniel Rodriguez is on es/

K-J did his de/ part, redirecting to the main site, perfectly valid, BTW.

Th remaining NL teams are to be reached.

The message for NLs is +/- :

"The documentation and NL teams have inserted a new entry in the Help menu to make easy for user to reach LibreOffice User Guides. The landing page of this Help entry is based on the locale of the user interface in use.

The documentation website is a place to store the published user guides. It was not designed to be a place to collaborative work on documents and chapters, which is much better handled by our wiki or the ODF Author websites. Once the work on a Guide is ready, it can be uploaded to the documentation site for ease of reach by end-users.

NL team managers are invited to shape their NL pages in documentation web site. They may upload the files in the website, reshape navigation or even redirect to a prefered webpage out of the documentation website."

When you say NL teams have inserted a new entry in the Help menu, which NL teams are you speaking about?

The french, the canadians, the germans, the spanish, the italians, etc... I used NL as national languages teams.

you mean L10n?

Yes, or those communities involved in their countries or languages.

Is it possible to point only to the wiki if the NLP has no book?

I think yes. We can create a page that redirects to another URL out of the domain d.l.o

and could you give the exact process, for example

- you need to request edit rights
- create a category for your language
- etc.

  • request edit right,
  • Login in d.l.o/admin
  • click "New" to create a new page, place it in the top level
  • put your locale as page name
  • select page type "Redirection" and a) to another internal page if you will use d.l.o for book download library or b) to an external page if you want to use TDF wiki

For a) create a new page under the $locale page and give a name and URL. Adjust redirection of the upper $locale page. Fill page with contents

Last question, when is the deadline for them, when will it be announced to the rest of the world?
Thanks :)

It is hard to push a deadline with volunteers. I suggest we leave with "at your earliest convenience". The fall back leads to the main localized LibreOffice website.

I'll draft a blog post about.

#10 Updated by Florian Effenberger 10 months ago

  • Target version set to Pool

#11 Updated by Florian Effenberger 8 months ago

  • Status changed from New to Closed

I think this ticket can be closed now, the first steps are done
Let's follow-up with separate tickets to track progress

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