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I don't see the original problem, but various people reported a glitch, when using some other wiki language besides English (from the language selector at the top nav).

I confirm I see this with Finnish:

Sisältö on käytettävissä lisenssillä the <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/&quot;&gt;Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License</a>, unless otherwise specified. This does not include the source code of LibreOffice, which is licensed under the <a href="https://www.libreoffice.org/download/license/&quot;&gt;Mozilla Public License v2.0</a>. "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation" are registered trademarks of their corresponding registered owners or are in actual use as trademarks in one or more countries. Their respective logos and icons are also subject to international copyright laws. Use thereof is explained in our <a href="/TradeMark Policy">trademark policy</a> (see <a href="/Project:Copyrights">Project:Copyrights</a> for details). LibreOffice was based on OpenOffice.org.<br/>If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here., ellei toisin ole mainittu.

Support for raw HTML in the copyright message has been deprecated in the recently released 1.43 and will be removed in the future: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T45646

I guess we should just rework the content of the message and use [1], [2] style references and list the links at the bottom? Keep it simple.

From MW 14.3 release notes:

The localisation messages 'copyright' and 'history_copyright' are deprecated in favor of 'copyright-footer' and 'copyright-footer-history'. The new messages are parsed as wikitext instead of being treated as raw HTML.

So I created https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyright-footer

However, it is not being picked up in the editing view and I could not find information about what needs to be changed in LocalSettings.php to make it effective. Hopefully Guilhem can help here.

Relevant resources:

Browser and filter all system messages (for example, select Modified and either find copyright in page or filter by it): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:AllMessages

Help: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:System_message

The messages can also be translated via that page by first selecting the language from the dropdown, clicking Filter and then clicking the name link of the page (clicking the Translate link is not relevant in this case as it leads to translatewiki for the upstream localisation).

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Footer
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface

From what I see, these are not used:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2

These unused ones are documented in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Copyrightwarning

Beluga Beluga wrote in #note-6:

From MW 14.3 release notes:

The localisation messages 'copyright' and 'history_copyright' are deprecated in favor of 'copyright-footer' and 'copyright-footer-history'. The new messages are parsed as wikitext instead of being treated as raw HTML.

So I created https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyright-footer

However, it is not being picked up in the editing view and I could not find information about what needs to be changed in LocalSettings.php to make it effective. Hopefully Guilhem can help here.

Relevant resources:

Browser and filter all system messages (for example, select Modified and either find copyright in page or filter by it): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:AllMessages

Help: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:System_message

The messages can also be translated via that page by first selecting the language from the dropdown, clicking Filter and then clicking the name link of the page (clicking the Translate link is not relevant in this case as it leads to translatewiki for the upstream localisation).

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Footer
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface

From what I see, these are not used:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2

These unused ones are documented in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Copyrightwarning

That is the basic idea behind https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T45646 It is not working for us as we are using a complete custom text. This has to be configured in the LocalSettings.config.
In https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowRawHtmlCopyrightMessages you can see the mess WikiMedia did: they instantly removed all the stuff again in MediaWiki 1.45 again.

In https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRightsText#Example they explain only some part and missed how to provide some important info (Impressum and "other legal stuff") with working links for logged-in and logged-out user including providing links or to overwrite the translation completely.

I need to setup again some up-to-date MediaWiki to play around with the existing (and new?) possibility if there is finally a solution lasting for longer than two releases. My original ticket was merged at some point by one of the above linked phabricator mess. I'm really happy that we will stay at Bugzilla. ;-)

• grabbing some MediaWiki:-onwiki-sites do not fix the problem logged out versus logged-in people
• has nothing to do with noscript any longer (I believe)
• TDF need to provide some legal links, easiest in "Footer"-text without using yet another extension which breaks again (3 or 4 were already used or evaluated in ~2015)
• LocalSettings.config was no solution, option was integrated and again removed
  • still missing a solution to get a useful translation integrated.

Dennis Roczek wrote in #note-7:

To keep the actual problem summarized:

• grabbing some MediaWiki:-onwiki-sites do not fix the problem logged out versus logged-in people
• has nothing to do with noscript any longer (I believe)
• TDF need to provide some legal links, easiest in "Footer"-text without using yet another extension which breaks again (3 or 4 were already used or evaluated in ~2015)
• LocalSettings.config was no solution, option was integrated and again removed
  • still missing a solution to get a useful translation integrated.

Based on what you said, I don't understand what the problem is with using https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyright-footer It is translatable after all as I mentioned.

If the current footer text is indeed hardcoded in LocalSettings.php then that explains why the newly-created MediaWiki:Copyright-footer is not having an effect.

Beluga Beluga wrote in #note-8:

Based on what you said, I don't understand what the problem is with using https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MediaWiki:Copyright-footer It is translatable after all as I mentioned.

1. under the edit summary field
2. under the content page itself at the very bottom

MediaWiki code might have changed, I only can say that a few years ago / a few releases before, it was not possible to get both displayed footer in sync displaying links and get the markup right and thus working for both places. Hence, it was tried to get fixed using hardcoded language in the LocalSettings.config, but this didn't solve the problem.

Feel free to try any combination, but be aware that there is server side and client side caching involved and a potential solution need double and tripled checked.

If the current footer text is indeed hardcoded in LocalSettings.php then that explains why the newly-created MediaWiki:Copyright-footer is not having an effect.

Correct.

Tested now a Finnish translation and it is working. Added a mention to our wiki translation resource: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=TDF_Wiki%2FMultilingual&diff=828651&oldid=770364